Join Jon and Bryan—biological twin cousins (yes, really—our moms are sisters and our dads are brothers) in their weekly podcast grounded in vastly juxtaposed lived experiences. At 40, we’re using this platform to explore what it means to grow up, glow up, and show up while queer, out loud, and laughing.
Follow as Bryan, a married father of two and Jon, a single, thriving, and sober, navigate life with fresh perspectives to bring you honest, humorous, and topics deeply rooted in identity, resilience, and connection.
Over 250K Views & Streams!
OUT LOUD & LUAGHING
Join Jon and Bryan — biological twin cousins (yes, really, our moms are sisters and our dads are brothers), and who also both identify as gay — in their weekly podcast grounded in vastly juxtaposed lived experiences. At 40, they're exploring together what it means to grow up, glow up, and show up while queer, out loud, and laughing.
Follow along as Bryan, a married father of two and Jon, a sober, single and thriving gay man navigate life with fresh perspectives to bring you honest, humorous, and topics deeply rooted in identity, resilience, and connection.
Recent Episodes
164
Aug. 26, 2026
Meet Joseph Lucido | Building a Career, Brand, and Life Without Curating Perfection
Google product strategist by day, jet-setting creator by night, Joseph Lucido is living the kind of double life most people only daydream about. But behind the glossy travel photos and iconic party stories is a sharper question: how do you build a life that is ambitious, visible, and still actually yours? (instagram.com/joseph.lucido) Joseph opens up about balancing nearly eight years at Google with more than a decade as a content creator, and why he stopped trying to maintain a perfectly curat
163
Aug. 24, 2026
Meet Alexander Stefanini | How a therapist built a sanctuary for trans and queer healing
Trans and queer people are being asked to survive a hostile climate while still finding a way to heal, transition, and stay whole. Licensed therapist and Arrive Therapy founder Alexander Stefanini shares what actually helps: sanctuary, community, laughter, and care that meets people where they are (ArriveTherapy.com) This conversation goes far beyond headlines and rhetoric. Alexander opens up about building a practice rooted in safety for trans, non-binary, and LGBTQ+ clients, and why an intent
162
Aug. 19, 2026
Revealing What Asexual Looks Like – From HighFashion Modeling to NYC Pride Grand Marshal with Yasmin Benoit
Most people assume the fashion and modeling worlds are rooted purely in sexuality and male gaze—Yasmin Benoit challenges that with her radical authenticity and activism. As the first openly asexual grand marshal at NYC Pride and a trailblazing figure in alternative fashion, she turns societal expectations upside down, revealing how visibility can be a powerful act of liberation. But what happens when a space built on hypersexualization is navigated by someone who simply doesn’t see sex or desire
161
Aug. 17, 2026
The Anatomy of Confidence – Shedding Small-Town Shame for NYC, Jockstraps, & 16-Hour Days with Zane Kazan
Most people think of the adult entertainment industry as a realm where passion and ambition clash with shame and stereotypes. Zane Kazan, a trailblazing actor, content creator, and founder of Helio Menswear, shatters that misconception by unapologetically owning his sexuality while aiming for mainstream greatness. In this candid conversation, he reveals how he's balancing bold business ventures, a sex-positive brand, and the relentless pursuit of his dreams — all without sacrificing authenticity
160
Aug. 12, 2026
Disney High Seas Tales From a Quadruple Threat Puppeteer with Conor Devoe
Most theater kids dream of turning their childhood shyness into a dazzling career — and Connor DeVoe did just that, blending singing, dancing, acting, and even puppetry into a vibrant, multifaceted life. But it wasn’t always glamorous; he reveals how early stage fright almost kept him from singing “Tomorrow” at preschool and shares the gritty realities of moving to New York City with an unpaid internship in his pocket. In this episode, Connor pulls back the curtain on the unpredictable journey
159
Aug. 10, 2026
Flipping the Script on Queer Gymnastics while Balancing the Creative Hustle with Andrew Chupp
Uncover the inspiring journey of Andrew Chupp, a true embodiment of multi-talented excellence who’s redefining what it means to be a modern athlete and activist. From elite gymnastics and content creation to advocating for LGBTQ visibility on the global stage, Andrew’s story is a masterclass in balancing passion, purpose, and authenticity. When most of us are just trying to get out of bed, Andrew spends his days coaching youth, shooting real estate, creating viral gymnastic content, and prepari